The reason the Gallaghers/Oasis are being 'hyped' at the moment is because they have reformed. If you don't like them, ignore them..
What I'm aghast about is the whole circus as that appears on the news.
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And I'm not against media hype due to sales factors.
What I'm against is profile-boosting due to favouritism unrelated to either talent or sales factors.
That's all.
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It's [...] essentially a simple whiny case of "it's not FAIR!"
The Elliot/Leppard tangent is daft though. [...] All the acts he gripes about* are either bigger sellers or otherwise culturally significant in some way, and all are successful on their own terms as well as having many detractors as happens when that high a profile is attained. He seems to have made his own straw man there.
* A qualifier - I realise that published interviews can distort what's been said for the sake of sparking some additional interest so I don't rule that out in this case.
Well, he was not reclaiming only himself or his band, but other bands and singers.
And in truth, Depeche Mode have had some brutal sales throughout their career, not to mention their influence. Iron Maiden likewise.
But how many times they have got any mentioning from the key media players?
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All the British press did was sneer at them.
What????
The continuous sycophancy shown by the papers towards them for the last three decades is something outrageous.
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Taylor Swift is probably the biggest selling artist at the moment. Does that mean she should be treated as if she were as good as the Beatles? No, it does not.
I think Ms Swift is better than the Beatles (no provocation intended) and you know I'm no fan of hers. Just an observation from my own.
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My answer to Backdrifter was that if it's a market question why other singers the with the same sales number or even higher are not given the same level of media attention?
The issue is that there are some singers and bands (among them the Gallaghers) who are always over-promoted and continuously mentioned regardless of musical talent or for being the best-selling ones, but because of croynism, as they are well-connected with the tastemakers.
This is the key point of Elliott's statement:
Our album will sell more than Morrissey’s so why don’t we get the same kind of respect? There are more people than Bono and Michael Stipe [...]. Whether it’s Simon Le Bon, Gary Kemp, Bruce Dickinson or me, there are more musicians out there.
What he was asking for was that, since his band sold more, they should at least be treated the same regard, not even better, to the favourites of the Privy Council of Coolness.
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Maybe the last iconic music video ever.
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I don't know what point you are trying to make.
Well, my point was a clear answer to this.
Give it a rest you two, what are you, 14? I'm no Oasis/NG fan but it's about business, not who you think is best. And like them or not, Oasis are big business.
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I simply gave my approval to comments from other users I totally agree with. I did not post any comment of my own so as not to add more fuel to the fire.
Regarding your comment, I think Def Leppard or Cathy Dennis (just a pair of names) are also big business, at least as the Gallaghers, but they don't get as much as media hype.
This is an extract from an interview by Joe Elliott, his comments depict it perfectly:
-I wanted [...] the biggest band in the world. And we were a couple of times. People don’t realise. We don’t get the credit we deserve from the media in Britain.
-Is it frustrating?
-It’s nice to walk down Oxford Street without being recognised but then again when music magazines write about us they take the p*** because we’re not as cool as Johnny Marr, who isn’t as successful as us by a million miles. Jools Holland won’t have us on his show because we’re not cool enough.
-Is that because people look down on rock?
-Rock’s ploughed its own furrow for 30 years but still music magazines don’t give rock its due and still rave on about Nick Drake. How many more front covers do Paul McCartney and Morrissey need? Our album will sell more than Morrissey’s so why don’t we get the same kind of respect? There are more people than Bono and Michael Stipe to put on the cover of a magazine. Whether it’s Simon Le Bon, Gary Kemp, Bruce Dickinson or me, there are more musicians out there. It’s not just Lennon and Jim Morrison. Bands who have sold s***loads of records, whether it be us or Depeche Mode, are becoming footnotes.
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Bruce Dickinson's a great fencer. I once saw a really sturdy closeboard fence he'd put up, very well constructed and with a lovely even paint job and weather protection. Very impressive all round.
He's a shit novelist though.
I like his Lord Iffy Boatrace books.
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Ironer? Does he starch his collars too?
Ironer: An Iron Maiden fan. Apart from Ironers, they are also called: Irons or Maidenheads.
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Genesis Members' Pet-Sports:
Phil Collins:
Cricket: He always stated that his family followed cricket with a religious fervour, specially his Father, he has always kept the habit of following the results every week and there are loads of pictures with him taking part in several matches
Sailing: Also running in his family
F1
Football (Soccer Version): Supports English National Team, Tottenham and Queens Park Rangers. Not that the game rules his life.
Tony Banks:
Ballroom Dance
Tennis
Cricket: Until yesterday, I was not aware of this, but it fits him.
Mike Rutherford:
Polo.
If you know about some more, share with us.
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Yeah, but while both are fans of tanalised wood, Steve prefers Scallop Top feather edged panels, while Bruce is more a rounded top man.
Every Ironer knows that Bruce Dickinson is a fencing fanatic (he was at the verge of representing UK at the Olympics), whereas Steve Harris is that of West Ham. I was referring to the best-known hobby sports of musicians, not to their innermost guilty pleasures. That's all.
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A reunion no-one needs. Many years ago a friend took me to one of their concerts and to this day, this concert is at the bottom end of my concert experiences list. I have no idea why people think it's a great band. Not for me, sorry.
Hear, hear! You're absolutely right!
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Well at least he can enjoy a laugh.
Anyway, just giving an example, if on an Iron Maiden forum it is given the information Steve Harris is going to comment on fencing, it is quite logical to bring up that Bruce Dickinson, the band's singer, has a thing for fencing.
This is the Genesis forum, anyway.
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PC is also a huge cricket fan.
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I never understood why people find this band good - or even special.
Hear, hear!
I was never impressed with them.
Hear, hear!
I was never a big Blur fan either, but if I'd had to choose between them in the big war of the time, I would have chosen Blur. [...] Of course Suede was a million times better than either of them 😃.
Hear, hear!
Well, I am proud to say ...
... I couldn't care less
Hear, hear!
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Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs
I really like the name of this band (no irony).
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Although the one you've reacted with is listed as 'confused'
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?
