When I first listened to We Can't Dance I instantly thought this song was destined for being played live. I was surprised it never was so it's really nice to finally hear it live, if only 30 years late.
Posts by WinstonWolf
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it would have been nice to have had one interview with them after the tour concluded to get their last thoughts on everything, especially Phil.
End of an era
I agree. Filming the PBS special during rehearsals when they did meant that Phil seemed pretty melancholy about the whole thing because he knew he wasn't anywhere near 100%. But he ended SO much stronger than he started and it would have been nice to hear them all reflect on the whole tour after ending on a high note.
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I think that Selling England By The Pound was the height of their technical virtuosity for sure. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway has an incredible variety of styles, but for sheer blazing chops Selling England stands out to me.
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It also would have been easy to miss Nick's post with the links to the downloads. I seem to remember not many people were interested.
At the time the big draw of the sets were the surround mixes, but I'm a little surprised they weren't all that popular. I'm just glad that the missing songs were offered up at all. There were a lot of bonuses both big and small that came about through Nick's attention in the old forum that made the boxes better than they might have turned out.
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Pardon? the extra songs from the Rainbow concert, appear on the DVD that was included in the boxset. Its the first we have heard that they offered a download option. Even the CD/DVD USA boxsets would have had the extra tracks on the DVD portion of the boxset.
TGA
Yes, they offered up a download of the two missing songs. Otherwise there wouldn't have been stereo versions of those two songs.
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The compression? it was the worst on the stereo recordings. But at the time the boxset was £120 retail, I purchased my copy for the surround mixes.
TGA
Yes, the compression on the stereo mixes. The surround mixes are great, but that's not how I generally listen anymore. Having a stereo version of the remixes that aren't brickwalled with compression would be nice.
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I'm surprised they don't want to keep the surround mixes in print. I understand that the actual boxes increase production costs but that's certainly not a requirement. I have all of the sets but I still wish they were available for those that still want them.
Heck, I'd even re-buy all of the blue box albums if they were willing to remaster without the heavy-handed compression that was added at the mastering stage back in 2007.
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It would have been fun if Anything She Does had gotten an airing or two on the IT tour. A real shot of energy!
Agreed! I recall Tony (I think) saying that they didn't play it because it was a hard song, which always struck me as a bit odd, but I wonder if it was just too high for Phil to sing reliably and they were still a ways off from budging on lowering the key of a song to make it easier.
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Inspired by Trick of the Wuthering's thread about songs that never were played by Genesis on stage, what are some songs where you look back and think "I can't believe they played that, but I'm glad they did!"
At the top of my list is It's Gonna Get Better. It's such a beautiful song, and it's one of my favorite songs from the Genesis album, but compared to Just A Job to Do or Taking It All Too Hard it seems like a much less obvious choice to be played live.
White Mountain is another surprise, especially considering they apparently didn't play it until the Trick of the Tail tour.
Honorable mention for me is the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway in its entirety. For every compelling reason for playing all of it there seems to be a strong argument against it. It's length, complexity, and the fact there are some fairly long passages that aren't particularly exciting from an audience perspective might have made it acceptable to not play the whole thing live, but I'm certainly glad they did. The album is a masterpiece but playing it all live is quite an achievement.
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Cul-de-sac - Such a great song, and has a lot of classic Genesis energy, drama, and mood shifts. I guess it got overshadowed by the Duke Suite on the Duke Tour, then just fell by the wayside afterward.
Living Forever - Seems like it was written specifically to be performed, right down to the gap after the vocals to give Phil time to walk back to the drums...
Just a Job to Do - Another great song that seems like it was destined to be a big stage song...only it wasn't.
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Duchess was fantastic. I also really liked Mama again this time around; that's one where the progressively lower keys from tour to tour seem to make the song even moodier.
Land of Confusion was another standout for me. I'm normally not a huge fan, but while a lot of other songs on this tour took on a softer edge LoC still rocked as hard if not harder than than it did on previous tours.
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway was a big surprise for me, because I didn't think the song was going to work in the re-worked, unplugged style, but it held up well for me.
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I think Pete has close to zero interest in singing a Genesis song at all, let alone with Genesis. It almost seems like Pete was goaded into singing those couple of lines of Moonlight Knight by Sting on their duo tour. It certainly didn't seem like something he would have done on his own.
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Very interesting picture... I think it's rather his 1976-1978 drumkit since it is a Premier, not a Gretsch or a Pearl (he had those later I believe, but I'm not a drummer, so I'm not a specialist).
Phil had a different Premier kit on the Duke tour (check out the Lyceum concert video) that has a lighter natural birch finish. His Lamb/Trick Tour kit was a darker, mahogany finish.
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I'm not convinced yet. The article is very light on full sentences and it's mostly a couple random words joined together by a lot of editorializing.
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Well, it's strange because he said he couldn't play in the documentary...
Was the kit left-handed ?
Because if not, I think it's "only" Nic's second drumset, a smaller one, for the acoustic medley (if this happens...).
Here's the pic from the last email... It seems to be Phil's Duke Tour set. And it's clearly set up for Phil.
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I'd love to hear Watcher in any way/shape/form on this tour, and I also thought the new Gear Used email might be a hint, but they also showed Phil's rehearsal drumset in the previous email, and that seems unlikely to happen now, so I'm really not sure what to think anymore...
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I think there's something in this. I've thought the same and hope it's true.
I agree. The complete songs we saw were all completely expected (and helped fill up the runtime of the show) but several more only ran as instrumental underscore, and I think there's still room in the set list for a surprise or two.
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Well, at least they cut I Can't Dance... That's about the only good thing I could say about which songs are missing...
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While all of these guys seem content to do their own thing I wonder if being together in the same room would help get the creative juices flowing knowing they don't have to do 100% of the work to put a song together.
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Genesis rarely give us big surprises these days.
Other than being back together and ready to tour, I suppose. That certainly surprised me!
