Posts by WinstonWolf

My hope is that this time around songs won't get dismissed out of hand due to lyrics alone, as has often happened in the past. That Phil is once again up for Abacab hopefully opens the door for others like Many Too Many...

No, not really. Thought I did a quick and dirty recording where I was double tracking both kits. Which taught me that double tracking yourself is hard!

Duke's Intro

So I've also had a more Chester Thompson-like set up going for a while now too, so I figured since I (just barely) had the room for both, here are Chester's and Phil's kits side by side!

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Maybe it's a drummer thing, but I've always enjoyed listening to The Battle Of Epping Forest because it is such a blast to play. Phil was really on fire on the whole of Selling England By The Pound, but this one in particular is such a well crafted part.

I didn't mind knowing the setlist prior to going to my first show in 2007. I bought one of the Encore discs from the European leg so I could hear the show in the lead up to seeing them for myself.

I understand the reasoning behind wanting the concert to have some surprises, but where Genesis is concerned I'm way too much of a newshound to even try to avoid spoilers.

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I think you’re talking about the outdoor concert in northern Virginia (was it at Wolf Trap?). I also saw Peter that tour at the hockey arena in downtown DC. Both venues were half empty for the concerts. Funny/gross story from the outdoor concert. I went with my brother. They had giant garbage cans at the venue. I went to throw something out and forgot our tix were in the same hand. Sure enough the tix went in the garbage. It was too deep to simply reach in and grab the tickets so my brother climbed over the rim and I hung onto his ankles while he dangled down and snatched them from the bottom of the can. Fun times lol

Gotcha! I didn't realize he played in DC proper. Yeah, the gig I saw was in an outdoor amphitheater (wasn't Wolf Trap...Bristow?) and I remember thinking while looking around at the empty venue just how far Peter had slipped from the mainstream. I suppose that happens when you wait 10 years to release another album...

You Might Recall and Evidence of Autumn are my top two for sure. Beyond that I chose On The Shoreline, It's Yourself, Feeding The Fire, and Twilight Alehouse.

The rest of that list has an incredible number of really good songs, it's incredible they didn't make the cut. I think that's proof just how "in the now" the band operated. I know some unused bits came back for later albums, but even when they were cranking out an album a year it's amazing they had enough great new material they rarely drew from that backlog to pad out the next album.

I too am holding out hope for hearing the first half of Cinema Show. With a key change and/or the backing vocalists handling those high harmonies I think it's a great new old song to bring back.

I know Mike forgot/hasn't been motivated to figure out the 12-string tunings but I can't believe Daryl couldn't do it if asked. It isn't the formula for Coca Cola we're talking about, and quite a few tribute bands have seemed to figure it out just fine...

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I remember being shocked attending the concert in Washington, DC on that tour and seeing Peter perform before a half empty arena.

Small world! I was at that show too, and I remember being quite surprised as well. When I arrived at the venue they were offering everyone with a GA lawn ticket to upgrade to a seat in the pavillion for 5 or 10 bucks, if I recall correctly.

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The 2008 remaster and new mixes imrpoves the LP : It's almost another album and the balance between the different instruments finally does the musicians justice.

I agree. Although I think the muddy, closed-off original mix gives the album a bit more character that supports the songs, both the 1994 DER and the 2008 remix really bring out a whole new sound for that album that I really like.

And now tickets to the Raleigh show have been added! I'm super surprised but super happy that they ended up coming to Raleigh instead of adding a second night in DC on the 19th like the early rumors were suggesting.

Well, it looks like I'll have to go to Raleigh too. Darn!

They dropped it after the Tampa gig, which was cut short due to Phil's voice giving out two songs in.

For their live peak I'd have to say the Mama Tour. There's a confidence and an effortlessness from everyone on stage that makes that period stand out to me. There's a lot of energy coming off of those Duke and Abacab shows but it's a little wild and unfocused at times.

Songwriting is a little harder to judge. Looking back it seems like each era ramped up and once it hit a climax something changed and they went in another direction.

Trespass

Trick of the Tail

Wind and Wuthering

Duke

We Can't Dance

One of the items offered as a part of the top VIP tour package includes an opportunity to win a keychain made from a piece of a cymbal from Phil's tour rehearsal drumset.

I welcome the extra singers. There have always been a lot of backing and harmony vocals on the albums, but those have mostly gone ignored in a live setting.

I'm not trying to make excuses, but when you consider how many bands even get to a 14th album, the fact that the album had several really solid songs, and several big radio hits speaks a lot.

Charlotte for sure. I would have picked DC (saw them there is 2007) but Charlotte is closer, and everything else involved is a lot cheaper.

Of course, if that rumor of a second DC show on the 19th actually happens...

I was aware of Genesis from around '82-83, but didn't buy an album until Invisible Touch, when I was 11 years old. After that (most likely spurred on by MTV's near constant playing of Genesis/related videos, the Mama Tour video, and their documentary) I began delving back into the back catalog in a fairly haphazard fashion. I think Three Sides Live, Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering were my next few purchases.

I liked all of what I was hearing so I kept buying more albums, and finally getting into the pre-'75 stuff. Already knowing Three Sides Live and The Mama Tour helped make the older albums a smoother transition for me, but by then I was hooked and I knew I wanted everything they'd put out. By the time We Can't Dance was released I did own all of their albums and Genesis was firmly cemented as my favorite band.

If you started earlier it might be hard to imagine, but I'm sure there are plenty of fans that got hooked by Invisible Touch or We Can't Dance (or So or But Seriously) that appreciate the early era or obscure songs just as much as the later albums, if not more.

As far as the new tour goes, I have no doubt about (and no problem with) the setlist being drawn from mostly later-era songs. I'm sure there will be a few surprises, but my expectations are tempered by reality.