Posts by DavetotheB

I don't think it's been mentioned here but does anyone think there could be a resurrection of the In That Quiet Earth/Apocalypse in 9/8 medley from the IT tour? Perhaps just the instrumental parts since the vocals are challenging. I know from some of the interviews at least some of SR was on the table for the setlist. It would be a shame for the possible last tour to not include at least a portion of their signature song from the early era. Thoughts?

Was just listening to the ITC medley from LA in 1986 and the thought occurred...

It's hard to ignore the first few notes of Genesis Live-absolutely captivating. And much better sound quality than Seconds Out (original mixes).

If the sound quality was better, I would have gone with Seconds Out, but Three Sides Live sounds soooo much better.

Final Answer: Live and Three Sides Live.

Why did it take Genesis until 2007 to put out a live album that had the ALL the track AND in order?

Solid album.

I went with I Grieve (far an away my fave), More Than this and Barry Williams (soft spot for this quirky song).

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I actually think this will be the soonest outcome, if you look at it closely. They have rehearsed all the songs and invested all that time and money into the stage set etc. If our government over here are so cautious for the coming months as Mike said it won’t be happening anytime soon. So why not cut your loses and look to performing where it’s practical to do so. If the United States are more accessible then why not for you USA fans?.

the question is though is the US allowing such live events soon?, can anyone over there chip in with thoughts?.

The answer is, "It depends." In the US, each state and sometimes municipalities (i.e. cities) within the states or even the venue itself have different rules for capacity limits. For example, baseball stadiums have capacity limits varying from allowing a small fraction of fans up to full capacity. It just depends on location (and politics).

I'm assuming the band would be playing mostly indoor venues and would want full capacity. That's probably going to take longer to realize than outdoor venues or limited capacity. Also, larger cities along the east coast have generally been slower to roll back restrictions related to gatherings.

My thought is that at some point, probably sooner rather than later for adults, everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be. That should allow restrictions to be rolled back further. The timeline for that? Mr. Rutherford seems think by the fall. I hope it's sooner but no one really knows for sure. We've come out a period where it was difficult to plan things two weeks in advance. To make predictions about things six months down the road without a lot of caveats is a shot in the dark at best IMHO.

Lamb, Fly, Cage, Carpet Crawlers and Riding the Scree (a hidden gem IMHO) were pretty easy pick. The sixth probably changes depending on my mood, but I went with Back in NYC. Slippermen, Waiting Room or Hairless Heart could at times round out the six. I also really enjoy the quirkiness of songs like Grand Parade and Counting Out Time.

Honestly like every song on this album. Feel like DWTMK, Firth and Cinema Show are far above the rest of the tracks. My fave of those is Cinema Show.

Dance, Entangled and Los Endos. DOAV because it's not only a great song, but it might be the most important song for the band having to prove themselves after Peter left. The first few notes followed by thunderous base pedals show they didn't lose a beat. What an intro! Los Endos is my favorite on the album. The third could have easily been Ripples or Squonk. Went with Entangled because that's the one I'm digging of the 3 right now.

I truly like every song on this album even the quirky RA&B and title track. Mad Man Moon is an outlier which I know gets a lot of love from the fan base. It's a good song and I like it, but it's never "clicked" for me-I just don't get it. But I also recognize that problem lies with me and not the folks who love the song.

Tough choice! Went with Vine, Unquiet Slumbers/Quiet Earth (it's one song-I don't care what the band says. for the record, my vote was for Quiet Earth) and Wot Gorilla. Blood, Afterglow and Earl are right there. While Blood on the Rooftops is a beautiful piece, it has never resonated with me like it does with most other fans. I know All in a Mouse's Night isn't a fan favorite, but I've always dug the story of the song. The only song I don't like on this record is YOSW. Don't do much skipping when listening to this album.

This one was probably the easiest of these polls for me. Down and Out, Burning Rope and Deep in the Motherlode. I always felt like DaO was an important song for the band, much like DoaV, since they were album openers during a time of band transition (Steve an Peter's departure, respectively). While DaO doesn't deliver the punch of DoaV, it's still a pretty powerful song. Undertow is solid. Unlike many, I have a soft spot for Ballad of Big and Scenes just because I like the stories. I generally skip the rest. Although FYFM has been growing on me since seeing it performed in 2007. It's a song I generally couldn't stand before that.

This one is a lot harder to just choose 3! I feel like I'm slighting a lot of good songs... I went with TIOA, which was my gateway to Genesis music after hearing the TSL version, Dukess Travels (I include Duke's End in that as well-not really sure how you can separate the two) and Duchess. I could have easily gone with BTL but have really been digging Duchess of late. Heathaze is up there but just short of the my top 4. I kind of lump all the rest in the next level except Misunderstanding which I've never really cared for.

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Too lazy to write the same ones out so just quoted this. Seems consistent with others. Overall though I love this album, it's my 2nd favourite after The Lamb. At the time I, alone among genesis fans at school (who acted like I was a heretic), really liked the change of direction, the punchier rhythms and the greater sense of space. In recent years, my respect for it and them increased when I learned they discarded a load of new material as it was sounding too Genesisy and went on to make this album instead. What a great, bold move. I agree with Christian about the importance of this album.

I also agree that Another Record is a very singular track, I have quite a soft spot for it.

I disagree with you DavetotheB that the live versions of the tracks you listed were great. Dodo was OK, but I didn't like the looser swing Thompson brought to it. The tighter, stiffer album version wins it for me. The KID from the Mama tour didn't work in my view, it couldn't really as it lost the percussive complexity that makes the album version sound so rich. M&SJ on 3SL is bordering on a mess and lacks all the atmosphere of the original especially the oomph of that exultant penultimate segment.

But with each successive tour they turned the title track into a great surging piece of rock music with some of my favourite dual drumming. It was the one track that really properly took off live. Odd, considering the nature of the album.

It was a great shame it went unrepresented on the 07 tour, being such a pivotal album.

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To each his own which goes without saying, I suppose. Will agree that Abacab was the best of the live versions.

Tough choices! That could very well change for me in a couple days...

Dodo/Lurker at the top pretty easily. Then it gets murky...Went with Abacab and Keep it Dark. Me and Sarah Jane could have easily been in there. Great live versions for all these songs!

I've always lumped the Home by the Seas together as one song. Those and Mama were my three. I'd throw It's Gonna Get Better in there as the third if not for the technicality...

Domino, Brazilian and TTT for me. I would put Land of Confusion just slightly lower than those probably because of the excellent live performances of this song I've seen. After that it's a pretty steep drop off to the remaining four songs...

Fading Lights and Driving the Last Spike are not negotiable for me. I went with Living Forever as the third, but could have easily done Dreaming While You Sleep or possibly, depending on my mood, No Son of Mine. Seriously though...What other bands at the time could make an album putting an epic song like Driving the Last Spike in between two songs that got ample play on MTV (Jesus He Knows Me and I Can't Dance)? What a band!

Always felt like The Dividing Line was the best track on this album. The power of the music covers for the somewhat cliche lyrics. Always had a soft spot for Congo, number 2. Picked the title track as 3 but could have just as easily gone with Alien Afternoon for it's quirkiness.

Please correct if wrong, but my understanding is that there were a lot of shows on the SEBTP tour where Genesis did not play an encore. On a few occasions, they would play The Knife as an encore but typically Supper's Ready was the last song in the set.

6-6-6 on the dominoes (Supper's Ready)

Winston cigarettes (Broadway Melody)

Razor next to a hairless heart

Charisma label on the bank of England paper

RUSH would be a pretty clear cut 2nd place for me. The next level would include King Crimson and Yes. Then probably ELP, Tull and Peter Gabriel after that.

I this may have been posted somewhere on the forum, but this always brings me joy when I watch it...