Posts by Mr.Farmer

    On the other hand I could definitely do without the Willow Farm section. It may be necessary in order to get to what happens after, but it just doesn't do it for me. The other sections I haven't mentioned are fine, but not up to par with the best portions of the song.

    Willow Farm is great. You have the beginning section of the song which takes a downturn in HDIBSB when WF lifts it with a jolly tune to get us ready for the drama to come. SR may have separate sections but it makes a tremendous whole with the sum of the parts being even greater . I read Tony Iommi's autobiography and he deliberately puts in the lighter stuff to make the heavier stuff heavier and WF fits on with this philosophy. All Great stories have light and shade and Willow Farm provides that balance . I've read that Suppers Ready is a hard listen but to me it's an easy listen. Like all their stuff there is nothing that goes on too long , no time to get boring.

    Much of SR lyrics create an imagery , oftem without specifics . This gives the listener room to put their own interpretations on it which is great. I've read that WF is just some silliness. I've read it's about a retreat or fat farm .I've read it has nothing to do with the rest of the song . Maybe it's right . But I see it in this way. There's a battle and people die. WF is the after life. They're dead. Like it or not, like what you got your under the soil, literally buried maybe awaiting rebirth bodies melting, .... all change...Theegg was bird... oh no I'm gonna change into a human being, ..... you name them all we've had them here ... And then life goes on to fit our places... mum washing and dad officing.The fox on the rocks is the devil.( PG said the fox is the devil. Spelt focks?) Everything is there. The sheer surface silliness of WF creates a slightly chilling atmosphere and gets us ready for the final battle between good and evil. Well that's how I see it and I like it that way. It fits perfectly.

    I can't plaiy a note of any instrument and music particularly Genesis sound quote magical to me. My step son plays the guitar drums. He tells me all the technical stuff about all sorts of things and why this that or the other is good or not. I played him Apocalypse and he was just gobsmacked. Refering to the drumming he said in was insane, and remained mystified as how anyone could that. It's favourite piece of drumming of all time.

    There is so much about this song. In many ways I prefer the SO version but there is just something about the way that we get a 20 minute build up to Pete belting the word Jerusalem that always brings out the our goosebumps.

    my sweatshirt also shrunk , it had lots of hammers marching on the front of it nothing on the back. I do have a picture of me wearing it hitching to Donnington Park to see the second Monsters of Rock festival with AC/DC , Whitesnake , Slade , Blue Oyster Cult , Blackfoot , More and Tommy Vance on the turntable . My first outdoor concert. Incidentally, Tommy Vance used to have an annual top 10 tracks of all time and I remember Suppers Ready always was in The top 3 once. Memories flooding back. I vividly remember an ice cream van but not much else as regards facilities (It was freezing and pouring ) and the ice creams didn’t sell that well!.

    Wow this great . You were there , so was I. It's great talking to normal people that were at these events/ places. It seems there are not many of us. I meet so few normal people in the wider mad crazy world . Weren't BOC terrible. Let down badly I believe. They were very bad tempered about it all,

    I can’t remember but it was Definitely a year or so after the album maybe a little more, I remember that concert like yesterday especially the sound circulating around the arena (if you don’t eat your meat etc) and the plane flying into the wall. Also Snowy white doing a solo from the top of the wall. I think it was about £8.50 - £9.50 or something like that I bought a sweatshirt and a programme and that was me skint!. I do actually have a dvd of the concert (one of them ) somewhere which I traded with someone years ago. Sweat shirt long gone , programme same but memories really vivid even now.

    One of the best bits was the American guy introducing it and getting booed and running off when he got his timing wrong. Then doing all over again as a zombie and we realised he worked out how to get booed deliberately and his timing was spot on. I think my sweatshirt is ina bag in my loft. Last time I tried it on it was far too small. It must have shrunk.;)

    The great news is, it's easy to find now.:P Having most of my stuff all together. It's amazing how much music I forgot I liked. :D


    Having music spread around I found it difficult to find and forget. 8|


    Pretty much completed all my transfers :)

    I have my stuff altogether too. Well at least it's all in one room.!

    Top row just Genesis LP's Books and Dvds

    I would have loved to see that concert I was old enough just at 17, but at that stage didn’t attend concerts on my own so therefore wasn’t allowed to go. I did see Pink Floyd Perform the Wall at the old Earls Court around the same time and Neil Young at Wembley Arena (both taken by a mate and his dad thankfully) but I missed this. Probably one of the greatest regrets of my concert going as a teenager and then an adult along with Led Zeppelin at Knebworth (I did try to go on my own as a 15 year old but I got rumbled!!). Can I ask how easy was it to get a ticket for the event?, and it’s a massive shame they didn’t decide to film it which I believe the band also regret to this day?.

    Never an issue with tickets as far as I remember. Can't remember how I got a ticket. It was either a self stamped addressed envelope with a cheque sent off or in person at the local ticket agency, just pop down and buy a ticket. I share your pain though. At 17 I could have gone to see Led Zeppelin at Knebworth some people offered me to go with them but parents wouldn't let me. Even all these years later still not decided if I should have just gone anyway but things were bad enough for my teenage self! Great hearing the your stories . I was at The Wall to at Earls Court. , went with a group of friends . Was it 1980 , I was 18.

    Remember being thrilled at seeing SR in 82 too. My favourite Genesis gig though I wish I could remember the fine details as well as your good selves.t's very difficult to rank favourite Genesis songs but it' is their great masterpiece. Although I'm an atheist I love the story of heaven ,hell, war , the afterlife Armageddon etc . All quite thrilling. I like the line about knowing a farmer the best.

    WOT NO SUPPER'S READY!!! Was my reaction when looking for the discussion on Genesis's masterpiece. A discussion was developing in the Trivia Quiz thread so looked for the thread on SR direct and there isn't one. We have a thread on SR v Duke suite and one on the first second on Paperlate! but nothing specifically on the 23 minutes of SR.


    So is it their crowning glory.?

    What's the best bit ?

    To me the lyrics have mostly become clear with still obscure bits, but I expect we will have our own interpretations.

    Any interesting bits of trivia about it? ( I only recently found out about Gabble Ratchets through this site)

    On the trivia quiz thread there was talk on how much of as song it is or not and how much of a complete story is it , and is that a strength or weakness.

    Any random thoughts at all.


    I absolutely love it .To me it's the best side of any album, by anyone. No weaknesses.