Posts by martinus

    Phil's best album opener, in my mind, is I Don't Care Anymore. It sets the mood for the whole album; in fact I often wonder whether Hello I Must Be Going isn't a kind of concept album ("To Shacking Up From Separation", if you permit the groaner). I Don't Care Anymore has the big wall of of sound, it has the small instrumentation, it has the raw emotions, all of which reappear at various points of the album.


    The same can, perhaps, be said about In The Air Tonight. I don't know. Due to its immense success ITAT dwarves all the other songs on Face Value; it unbalances the whole album. I can't, of course, but I would like to know what I'd have thought about In The Air Tonight as the album opener if it had not been that gigantic hit.

    I was listening to SO the other day and I must say, in time it has decreased considerably in my list. ... it hasn't aged well with me, although I still love Red Rain

    Funny. Because Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain is precisely the reason I hardly ever listen to So as an album. It is repeating this line incessantly - this is what Peter Gabriel purgatory is like: Red Rain on endless repeat.

    Red Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red RainRed Rain is coming down, Red Rain


    A pity, really, because So has great songs: We Do What We're Told, This Is The Picture, Mercy Street, In Your Eyes.

    Oh, that is a mighty song! A lot of space in that tune and, wow, those drums! There's some stuff on that album that gets overlooked probably because it either was never played live (as in Do You Know, Do You Care) or it never made it past the first tour.

    I think HIMBG also suffers in popularity because it give off very angry and very lonely vibes. Makes it hard to compete with happier sounding albums.

    I don't mind a book being financed that way (proud supporter of Music For Elephants here). But I want information what I may be investing in. The announcement seems to coast on the concept of "fans are so desperate, they are going to buy everything we dangle before them". Don't like that. Mind you, the product may turn out good in the end.

    Yes, he does have a tendency to overdo things to the point where the spirit of the song is in danger of being lost. Sky Blue, my favourite song from UP, was in gestation for over ten years. It does not take ten years to make a song!

    Especially when he then releases it several times over (Sky Blue, Cloudless).

    Someone should have forced him to compare an "early almost finished version" with what he considers the final version. I wonder what the songs on UP and US would have sounded like then.

    Melt and Passion and New Blood.


    Car and Scratch have good songs, but they are not really Gabriel yet. Security is a bit of a rehash of Melt. So has Red Rain falling down, Red Rain.... urgh. Birdy is utterly boring. I find Us and Up over-produced. Ovo was really cool at the Millennium Dome show, but most songs are a bit dated. Long Walk Home is another album I like to listen to, but the music works much better in the film than on its own. Scratch My Back I like much better now than when it came out (guess you can see that in my part of the review), but I don't listen to it much anymore.


    New Blood - because of the great arrangements, especially on The Rhythm Of The Heat. These songs sound familiar yet new, fresh, from a different angle.

    Melt is the first album where the music Peter makes is really his music the way he wants it to be, with an almost flawless selection of songs.

    The music on Passion really moves me. This is a seriously overlooked album of fantastic music, from The Feeling Begins to Bread And Wine. Passion is the one album from the whole Genesis cosmos that I could call inspired.

    Am I the only person who thinks it's vaguely possible to rank Phil's studio albums from best to worst int the order they were released?

    If you start your solo career with a song like In The Air Tonight you are making it bleeping difficult for yourself to go up from there. But that was a single, of course.


    I prefer Hello I Must Be Going to Face Value, though. Such a raw, angry album. Do You Know, Do You Care ... such an incredible big wave of sound - created by Phil and Daryl only. A drummer's album.

    I'm originally from northern Germany, but have been living in Bavaria for more than half my life now.


    Noni, I used to know someone from the Liverpool area who met someone from Canada in a Genesis fan forum. Hope they're still happily married. Wouldn't happen to be you now, would it?

    If you are looking for Genesis lore these books are of little interest for you. Except for, like, five pages. He doesn't coast on that at all. Luckily, he has far more entertaining stories to tell than that old hat.


    I am a bit surprised... nobody here seems to have read his books?


    FWIW, BBC radio portrayed him in one instalment of a programme called "A House Somewhere"; it is probably somewhere on the genesis-movement torrent site.

    My first Genesis concert was Hannover 1992, at the Niedersachsen Stadium. Santa had brought me the ticket, disguised as a ticket for a Heino* gig (cheeky Santa had a handwriting much like my brother's). I sat way up, way back, but I still enjoyed it. And I was so excited to see Genesis live! What I remember most vividly is hearing Home By The Sea for the very first time. And the jumbotron screens.

    I'm re-reading The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer right now. It's just delightful.

    I liked that when I was young. Re-read it recently, still like it - but differently. Do you think children today still can relate to the story? I wonder if their world has changed too much from Tom Sawyer's or Emil's (from Emil And The Detectives) or other children's stories for them to understand. ("So why don't Hansel and Gretel use the GPS on their mobile, daddy?").