Posts by MoonlitKnight

Quote from Christian

thanks. glad I could help!

regarding your other comment - my partner thought the set was pretty demanding for fans who are more into the hit stuff. There were quite a few longer and instrumental tracks....

I agree, especially if by "fans who are more into the hit stuff" you mean literally only into the stuff that was played regularly on pop stations, beginning with FYFM. By that measure, Behind the Lines, HBTS/SHBTS, Fading Lights, Cinema Show, Afterglow, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Duchess, Domino, DWTMK, and Carpet Crawlers are all songs that aren't familiar to the ears of the pure pop crowd.

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The simple, if somewhat sad, fact is that.....they could play any of those songs. They could find a way to match Phil's current vocal range, just as they've done with Mama, Duchess and the other transposed songs.

The fact is, they don't want to. Understandably they play what the three of them all want to play. And since 1982 or so, they've not felt like bringing out much of the *really* old stuff. That's not what they want to play, and it's not what the majority of the audience want to hear.

Yes, it's a shame that the men who wrote One For The Vine or Supper's Read will never again play those songs. But it is what it is. Enjoy Genesis for what they are today, because this almost certainly is your last chance.

Steve will no doubt continue for a few more years, his shows are successful. Peter hasn't sung more than a couple of lines of a Genesis song in 40 years. Mike might occasionally add an 80s Genesis hit to a Mechanics set list. Nic reckons Phil will retire again after this. Tony....could theoretically lend his services to guest with any tribute band (or even Steve's) to thunderous and rapturous applause but has never shown any desire to do so. Likely late March 2022 will be the last time he performs anything in public.

Sad, perhaps. But that's what they want. And in the end, they're not our performing monkeys. They're human beings.

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Nic mentioned before the tour that he had practiced at least parts of Watcher of the Skies and Supper’s Ready. My impression is that they were at least considering those songs but set them aside due to the difficulty in playing songs like that for the first time in 40 years.

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I'm writing a review of the tour to be published later this week. Were there any changes in the setlist or other changes compared to the American shows in December?

I’m guessing there were no changes to the setlist. It seems likely some excited fan who attended the show would have posted about it already.

Dodo/Lurker, after hearing it on the radio yesterday and being reminded how much I love that song.

Brian Eno—The Big Ship. It’s being used as background music in a commercial on CNN and got totally stuck in my head.

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Was there actually an 'era' where bottles were thrown at bands? Why was this behavior ever tolerated to such an extent?

I wasn't there and I was 1 year old in 1982. But support bands are a common, easy to understand thing. What kind of brain dead fool throws solid objects at someone trying to do their job. I can't share the view that this behavior was inevitable, with the caveats I mentioned.

If I had been in Genesis I would have gone on stage and told the crowd that if one more object was thrown at my support act, I would not be taking the stage myself. Bullying enrages me.

In the early 90s while in graduate school I had a job one summer working at the arena in Salt Lake City. One night The Cure played there. I was tasked with stage clean-up after the show. There were literally dozens of panties littering the stage. All I could think was “Women want THAT guy?” It was definitely a different era.

This isn’t a dream, but yesterday I was listening to the 70s station on satellite radio here in the US. Suddenly this thought popped into my head “They’re playing Phil Collins or Genesis on the 80s station right now.” So I hit the button for the 80s station and I hear “Well I’ve been waiting for this weekend, I thought that maybe we could see a show.”

I hit gold on the way home from work yesterday listening to SiriusXM satellite radio. First Misunderstanding on the 80s station. Then I flipped over to Deep Tracks and . . . They were playing Robbery, Assault and Battery 😁

It would definitely be an emotional moment. And the final encore—DWTMK/Carpet Crawlers—would seem an ideal fit in terms of vocal range for Peter today.

Last half of Supper’s Ready, sans vocals.

Walking on Sunshine - Katrina and the Waves

SiriusXM satellite radio must have found their copy of Abacab behind a filing cabinet. They played Keep it Dark over the weekend and WhoDunnit today.

All Along the Watchtower - Dylan/Hendrix

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I have a very soft spot for this tour, as even though I didn't go to a show for being too young, I love WCD and felt to some extent like I was "there" in that I was a massive fan of the band and all their music by the time the tour video came out. I watched my vhs of that tour until it was badly worn. Loved the visuals and selections. I also read that the IT tour video was at the end of a long tour leading to the band seeming tired, while the WCD one was much earlier in the tour and they seemed fresher.

But oh the folly of cutting TTT in half!

Also in hindsight, they were really so young despite having been around seemingly forever. It's a pity they went away.

True that about cutting TTT in half. Such a shame. I read an interview with Tony somewhere a while back in which he described the keyboard solo as being “deceptively difficult” (or some such language) to play. I’ve always suspected that explains the song never being played in full since the IT tour, rather like the piano intro to FOF was never played after the SEBTP tour.

Rael = a character for whom REALity has been altered.

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I remember hearing "Follow You, Follow Me", "Misunderstanding", "Turn It On Again", "Abacab", and "Man on the Corner" on my local rock radio station (98 Rock in Baltimore). At least a few of those made it to my mix-tapes recorded from the radio MTV added "Missed Again" and "Abacab" to regular play, and on one of their Saturday night concerts they showed 3SL, sealing my interest in the band.

My Dad liked Phil's singles as well as the Genesis tunes playing on the radio. He wasn't a musician but had a good ear for a good drummer & he really liked Phil's style. Dad took me to see Asia & Yes in 1983, and I remember we talked about catching Genesis, but the show was in DC and mid-week... just couldn't make it happen. No doubt he would've loved the show as much as I would have!

Ah, 98 Rock in Baltimore. I grew up listening to that station. I recall one of their station ID’s being “98 Rock . . . KICK ASS ROCK-N-Roll!” Lol. Better that WLPL (was that before your time?) They used to play songs faster than the regular speed (I guess to fit in more advertisements?)

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Yes I listen to this podcast a fair bit and I've only just about got to the stage of telling Kemp and Pratt's voices apart! Pratt's voice is a little lighter in tone - and, as established, he interrupts a lot.

I'm not sure about Hackett getting frustrated at these Genesis questions vs solo career questions. This is a guy who barely ever performs any of his new material and does regular tours based largely on Genesis material so he's kind of laid down the rails himself.

Plus, a lot of listeners will only marginally have any interest in Genesis let alone the solo work of that other guy who left them in the 70s who isn't Peter Gabriel. So the slant of the questions is understandable in that sense.

Couldn’t agree more about Steve. He seems perfectly comfortable with reliving his Genesis days, whether on stage or in interviews.

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I am likely one of the youngest writing here; I was born 2 years before Genesis came back in 2006-2007. About 10 years on, I start listening to these geniuses and love it. (What hasn't been said about these guys?) I learn Firth of Fifth on the piano and endlessly listen to every album I can find. (This is partially out of mania, but also desperation because I find today's popular music migraine-inducing levels of awful. And it's somehow worse now than 5 years ago! Way worse (in my opinion)! It's just made me admire the craft behind Genesis' music more, though, and that's probably why I didn't stick just with their later hits.)

So then I find out about these things called 'concerts', and, hey, what if Genesis did that? 65 years old? Bah! No reason at all they couldn't...wait they already did?

And then imagine my shock - probably from many people - when Phil started touring and Mike joined him and then Tony and Nic and Daryl on a Genesis tour again....

Even though I definitely don't get the historical significance of the band like...probably pretty much everyone (older than me) here, it was a shock to me because I thought history was history, and yet I was going to get the opportunity to see another glorious incarnation...live.

COVID-19 hit here literally days after they announced this, and the venerated sheet of paper I printed out - listing only dates in Europe at the time - put hopes even lower. Then they announced they'd venture into the nation of mental insanity we know and love that you don't need me to mention, and on top of that, COVID-19 went away! And there was much rejoicing was still here. I thought they'd cancel and/or postpone a few here, but luckily, inexplicably dodging these trivial issues brought us to D.C., and you to this sentence.

You might've heard me there-I was the one who screamed yelled exalted in joy when Nic started Firth of Fifth. The concert was fantastic in nearly every way. Phil (+2) SANG, Mike, Tony, and Daryl PLAYED, and Nic...I thought he was astoundingly good. It's weird to think about, but he's literally the reason that any of this happened. If he hadn't been drumming, then Phil probably would've never returned to touring, and neither would've Genesis. (Well, technically then Phil's the reason. And whoever taught Phil to drum. Etc., etc., you know.)

The only things I thought subpar were the graphics, at times (mostly Land of Confusion...the stuff falling from the sky was a bit cheesy, but everything else was fine with that one. And some of the other stuff seemed uninspired, really; not much happened with stuff like Mama or Duchess (though the idea for Duchess was really cool), and the Dominoes in domino...I mean the domino in Dominoes...wait, the Dom-It just seemed a tad graphically unrefined sometimes.)

And then the stage design was...weird. Probably because of how normal it looked. Looking at the grandeur of '06-'07's stage, this seemed a bit underwhelming...and maybe too symmetrical from the front. I was on the infamous side (of "the little people way up there"), though, and the speakers/domino lights bordered on obstruction at times.

But it was an amazing experience, still. I got to share it with my dad, who had been deprived of Genesis live since the early '90s. I can't forget any of the concert, no matter how little I try, because it was always going to be, was, and was being a monumental moment for us both, and for him even more so than me. They played his favorite and mine, and the rest was nothing less than godly. The music was so well played...I just wish Phil and the other singers had more chemistry.

We cried, we laughed, we applauded. I annoyed everyone else around me with my enthusiasm, but you know what? (Yes, I'm sorry, Section 432 or so.) It was my only time to ever show the band how much this humble follower loved their work.

And I'm so glad we got the chance.

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We were at the show in DC as well, sitting up sigh the “little people.” It was fantastic show and a evening my girlfriend and I will treasure always.

Heart of Gold - Neil Young

At the concerts I attended the lights during Dodo caused an audible gasp and then an eruption of cheers during the Abacab, 3SL, and Mama tours. The lady I was dating at the time of the Mama tour was not a huge Genesis fan (she preferred the Talking Heads). But I remember hearing her exclaim “Oh my God!” during Dodo. The only other light-related crowd reaction that ever approached that at the concerts I attended were the “glowing Phil” effect during the 666 section of Supper’s Ready and the exploding color of lights and then thousand pins of light effect during the end of SR, circa 3SL.