Posts by Liquid Len

Quote from thewatcher

I love it. Genesis are a band that demands 6 favorite albums, dammit.

(I'm not kidding, I have a top tier of Genesis albums that had CAS and Trick at the top followed by Abacab/Duke but Lamb and Trespass won't be refused entry to the club, what am I to do?)

No doubt! I’m going to say something that might be a bit contentious among the fan base—-but CAS has on it probably one of the top ten Genesis songs ever, The Dividing Line. It’s almost impossible to pick a uniform top ten list of songs by the band, (their cup runneth over) but arguably you WOULD have to consider The Dividing Line on there.

Quote from nts1drums

Wind & Wuthering was the album that converted me from interested to fan. Just like that with the snap of my fingers.

Oh absolutely. The first time I heard Blood on the Rooftops, I was blown away. The end of the album with BOTR, into Unquiet Slumbers/ITQE and Afterglow….just perfection. Might be the best group of songs to end a Genesis album ever.

Quote from thewatcher

I went back and it's still there. I picked it up and took a photo of it. It's real. It costs $37. I felt my phone wince as the camera tried to focus, it did that blurry in-and-out thing like it would do in a Japanese horror film just before the dead girl with the jerky limb movements rushes toward you and eats your face. None of these sentences are false. It costs $37.

Edit: $37.

Haha. I can picture your eye twitching as you pick it up to pay for it.

Wow, I’m surprised W and W is getting more votes than Duke. Considering how popular Duke is among the fan base. I really enjoy W and W, glad it’s getting some love.

Quote from nts1drums

Best guess? I'd say either A Trick Of The Tail or Duke. I'd add the two albums in between but Steve doesn't have many contributions on Wind & Wuthering (though his contributions to Eleventh Earl Of Mar, Blood On The Rooftops & The Unquiet Slumbers / In That Quiet Earth medley are still awesome) and ...And Then There Were Three... mostly has good tracks but I honestly don't like Burning Rope & Say It's Alright Joe.

I love Burning Rope. Might be my favorite track on the album. That or Undertow.

What I would give to have seen Genesis in that ‘76-83 time frame. Seems like it was incredible. A great time for music overall. I’d take ‘72-73 as well. Some of those shows must have been spectacular.

Quote from FeelItComing

Intruder, Games Without Frontiers & Biko, but how the hell do you choose? What a masterpiece this album is.

Totally, one hundred percent agree Feel. This album is amazing. I’m going with, I Don’t Remember, Games without Frontiers, and Biko. But it could change on a daily basis for me.

Maybe denying entry to things people REALLY want to do will encourage improved vaccination rates. People refuse to believe that this was a deadly disease that needs to be curbed through a combination of vaccination and unfortunately herd immunity. All this politicalization has led to ignorance. The right to decide is everyone’s god given right, but let’s be smart about it and realize science is on our side. The positivities rates dropping around the country is the proof in the pudding, as they say.

Quote from Witchwood

Under present circumstances I'm not averse to the idea, but I'm curious what kind of proof would have to be shown.

Up in my neck of the woods, we just get a peel-off sticker that says "I've been vaccinated."

Perhaps in other jurisdictions, they give you something with your name and an official stamp from local health authorities.

A sticker is not an official medical record of sorts. Usually you get a card that shows the dates that you received the shots.

Quote from Backdrifter

😂 Have you replied to the right person?! I'm very relaxed. I think you've not spotted that I wasn't exactly being serious... and was indeed having fun in my way! I'd like to think vl1 was too but he can confirm...

no I thought it was the other dude sorry. Lol

How cool would Dodo/Lurker be as an opener?

Quote from Christian

indeed a unique show

but then again, what defines peak? I don't think it has to be connected with audience response. It can be, but doesn't have to. And of course we all have different perspectives. But I am also sure that musically, based on what they WERE able to do, their peak must have been somewhere between Lamb and Abacab.

I don’t know. I’ve always been fascinated by a band’s tippy top moment. The moment when they are at the height of their powers, and can just command an audience. When of think of Zeppelin for example, I think many people would agree that the Earls Court Arena shows in May of ‘75 were their absolute peak. After that tour, Plant wrecked his car in Greece in August on holiday, and they never were the same. I was trying to pinpoint that moment for Genesis, and all these responses are great. You guys are right, it’s totally subjective. And since Genesis had a much longer career than Zeppelin, it makes it even harder to pinpoint.

Quote from RolandCopping93

I haven't seen this talked about yet on the thread, but one thing I've noticed from watching several videos of Phil's Not Dead Yet tour is that the quality of his vocals has been a bit inconsistent between different legs of the tour. I was watching his 2018 Philadelphia show and his vocals on some songs were not too far off from where he was on the First Final Farewell tour (albeit transposed down), even on some more challenging songs like Hang In Long Enough and I Missed Again. Meanwhile, several of his 2017 and 2019 shows had him missing quite a few notes and having to defer to his background singers, sometimes in the middle of a vocal line. Also, his 2016 pre-tour announcement performance of In the Air Tonight at the US Open had him just about nailing one of the "screams" at the end (although he was standing up during that performance). Hopefully, he's whipped his voice into shape and improved his consistency for this upcoming tour, but I suppose I can't afford to be picky. I'm a Gen Z Genesis fan who missed out in 2007, and I'm determined to see them live at least once in my lifetime, warts and all.

I’m right there with you. Like I mentioned somewhere else, there is a whole bunch of us fans in our late thirties to early to mid 40’s who never got to see them live because we were probably too young in ‘92, and missed the boat in ‘07 for various reasons. If nothing else, it becomes a bucket list thing.

Quote from Backdrifter

Couldn't think where to put this, didn’t feel right to put it in the 'Random' thread so decided this one was more appropriate.

Someone in my extended family, only in their 40s, has been told they have a terminal condition and not much time left. They'll leave a partner and 2 young kids. I'm shocked & upset, can't stop thinking about it. Whatever gripes we have, something like this puts it in perspective.

In context of the ‘growing older’ theme of this thread, I have health issues, and had a bit of a scare last year. But I've been managing it and in some ways feel better than I have for some time. And I’m still here, enjoying life. Today a work-related thing happened that’d normally really irritate the hell out of me but at the moment it’s bounced off me, thinking about my relatives. I really feel for them, it’s so upsetting. Most of us probably make sure we make the most of the time we have but every now and then you’re jolted into thinking about it more keenly.

Man, I hate getting all reflective on a Thursday…

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I’m really sorry to hear this Backdrifter, my condolences.

Quote from FeelItComing

I don't know if some people think Sledgehammer isn't 'cool' or something because it was such a huge hit. I worship it. It has his love of people like Otis Redding all over it.

And it was one of the first videos I recall seeing on MTV as a kid. I was blown away. That and the video for Touch of Grey by the Grateful Dead where they all turn into skeletons. Good memories.

Quote from Liquid Len

I could see that. I surprised that Sledgehammer has gotten so little love here. I know it’s the obvious hit, and a bit overplayed, at least in the states, but I still consider it a great song.

To clarify, what I mean is that I’m surprised it’s only tied for fourth place here.

Quote from martinus

Red Rain is my pet hate song, not just on So but also among all of Peter's song.

My problem with Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain, is that Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain contains the line Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain so often that the line Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain in the song Red Rain is coming down, Red Rain has become most annoying in the ceaseless repetition of ... you-know-which-line.

Having said that, my votes go to In Your Eyes, Mercy Street and This Is The Picture.

I could see that. I’m surprised that Sledgehammer has gotten so little love here. I know it’s the obvious hit, and a bit overplayed, at least in the states, but I still consider it a great song.

Quote from Simon1967

there are some boots from the Marquee gig, available on YT (orlando usually a good source)....you can some rather vocal crowd members deriding any numbers from Duke and Abacab, which is quite amusing...although probably not for Phil at the time 😊

Haha. I remember Tabletop Genesis talking about how when they would do Say It’s Alright Joe, some crowd members would heckle them over that long visual intro. And Phil would be thinking, would you shut the bleep up, I’m trying to perform here. I guess there are some songs which the band is partial to, but not the fans necessarily. And vice versa of course.

Quote from Dr. John

It is more nasal and I am not exactly sure why. Age sometimes deepens the voice, which often adds a really nice richness to compensate for the loss of range. Phil's voice has changed in tone in multiple ways over time. It was lighter and initially lacked heft early on, then became stronger and lost some of that light touch, it then became warmer, and then became lighter and a bit more nasally as you mention.

There are a number of songs that might fit his voice now. Some would be great to hear - e.g., Blood On the Rooftops, Inside and Out, the full Cinema Show (the high bits are falsetto). We'll have to see what the final setlist looks like.

I guess the only thing that stays consistent in life is change. He’ll compensate for his voice change. Thinking of artists who’s voices have aged gracefully, I love the way Robert Plant sounds now. He’s got this richness to his voice, almost like a soulfulness. His last solo album was wonderful, IMO.

Quote from slowdancer

impressive.

hahahahaha. Your reaction slowdancer, made me crack up laughing.