Posts by foxfeeder

I was a few days short of my 12th birthday. Happy Birthday Noni.

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Nic is a grown up man who can make his own decisions.

And his decision might be to side with his mum and abandon the tour. It might not be, but we don't know the family dynamics.

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that post is still there in the coronavirus thread.

Ah, OK, I said if memory serves. It doesn't!

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I just read back through the thread and am struggling to see what's reportable.

The post that is missing is one from Slowdancer, if memory serves, with the picture of Trump behind bars, and a post from another forum about him.

Seems someone objects to the idea of Trump in prison, AND YET Trump himself was banging on at the last election about putting Hilary Clinton in jail for the "crime" of using the wrong email server. If that is a crime, not sure it is anywhere, let alone the USA.

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Hope it heels quickly.

The stupid thing I've done is remove my hard hat at work and hit my head on a steal beam!... Ouch!!!!!

Reminds me of a work colleague years ago who stood up after examining something at low level, hit his hard hat on what was above him, thought himself lucky he was wearing it, and then walked off WITHOUT the hard hat which was impaled on a screw sticking out of the ceiling above him!

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Never heard of this band

What? Brother of Johnny Winer, both albinos, and both very talented. I bought their hit single back in the 70's, "Frankenstein" which may well be off this album, but was 4+ minutes of synthesizer driven gold. This live version is a bit longer:

Here's brother Johnny, who died a year or two back, making the rolling Stones look old even back then in the 70's:

They were both showmen too!

Probably the only musician who wouldn't mind a piece of his music being used for Trump is Chopin, although he sadly no longer can air his opinion, having had said piece of music played at HIS funeral!

Justin Hayward is from Swindon, and it's his 74th birthday today! Happy Birthday Justin.

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^ I really enjoyed LoM but staggered through the first 2 eps of AtA, which I found very hard-going, and gave up (KH and PG fan though I am).

Is it worth just skipping straight to the final episode?

hard to say, it's been a while, but I think it would be best to at least watch the final episode of Series 2, and then series 3, which sees the introduction of a key character, Jim Keats, played by Daniel Mays, another great actor, recently in Des.

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Never watched them when they came out but watching Life on Mars and then Ashes to Ashes on iplayer.

Absolutely brilliant TV series, I won't spoil it but the last episode haunted me for days.

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Maybe, but if I simply tell people I like music they might buy me some Jay Z for Christmas.!!

I wouldn't. I'd buy you some music!

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I'm not that surprised about CAS's sales. They remained a key band for Europeans especially, where they've had a very faithful devoted fanbase from early on and a new album and lineup was always going to be an attraction. I think many of us regard the album as a sort of appendix to their career, not especially great and I've even seen people here say they don't regard it as a 'proper' Genesis album. All those views create a sense of it being a poor relation among their work and maybe in that context it can seem surprising it sold fairly well.

I agree, it's oddly difficult to pin down straightforward sales figures.*

*EDIT: a footnote on that site explains that websites - including their own! - are not reliable sources of information on global album sales.

There are a lot of issues with album sales figures going back over a couple of decades. largely due to old record companies having been taken over, HQ's changed, and old paperwork being lost or disposed of. Decca, for example, have changed hand and moved HQ's a couple of times since 1980, (Now owned by Universal, though that evolved from the US arm of Decca that was splintered off years earlier.) and as a result, sales figures for the preceding era are largely lost.

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Now you mention it the original fade-out did stop rather suddenly, although it had faded quite low by that point so it wasn't too jarring at normal volume. Whereas the 08 remaster has a more gradual extended fade, including a few seconds of run-out that didn't feature before.

It makes me wonder how they actually ended the track in the studio - did the different instrument tracks each come to a definite end as per live performances or just peter out? I thought the 86 ending without the volume-down was much better than previous live ones with the 'on-stage fadeout' which always sounded a bit lame to my ears.

23 minutes of SR plus near 2 minutes of Horizons is pushing vinyl to the limit IF you want to keep the bass at proper levels - bass gives wider grooves in the vinyl, and there is only so much room between the records edge and the run out groove, which on many turntables will activate the autostop.

A cutting engineer will be aware of these various limitations that need balancing, and it's even possible they did 2 or three versions to be presented to the producer and band, to see how they wanted to have it released.

CD avoids all this problem, they can keep it going as long as they choose, up to 80 minutes total.

I'm not aware of any Genesis tracks that have been released to include previously unheard starts and ends, but I have a few Moody Blues ones, and it's quite interesting to hear the full track. There are even some with comical bits, The Story in your Eyes starts with a voice (Graeme Edge to my ears) saying "it's a marriage of classical and Rock" for no obvious reason. Question ends with Justin doing a little random acoustic guitar solo, and Gypsy ands with a mayhem of instruments, chimes, and a strange laugh, which all fades out then returns briefly. So, bottom line, there could be all sorts on the master tapes, Steve has alleged that there is a 3 part guitar harmony on SR at the end which was never mixed in. A little odd if so, for that is not something Steve has ever really embraced, though he clearly has the ability to do it. In contrast to Brian May and Justin Hayward who did it a lot, to name but 2.

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why that? I mean they want to do the shows, we want to go ...

But no-one wants anyone to die! I want to go to the pub and go on holiday, but, like the man said, "You can't always get what you want"!

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Oh, and re presenter Mike Rutherford, if it wasn't for the fact that Labour MP Tony Banks died some time ago, they could've teamed up with visual artist Phil Collins (or journalist Philip Collins) to form a band.

Since I've mentioned rallying, There is also a rally driver called Phil Collins. Used to drive a pink Ford Sierra Cosworth sponsored by Mr Tomkinson's Carpets, I think the colour is part of their trade mark.

Here's my favourite clip of Phil in "action":

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William Woollard! I remember him from Tomorrow's World but never having been a Top Gear viewer I don't recall him on that show. I remember that sneery sounding bloke - Quentin Willson? And a woman who I think pre-dated both of them. Whenever I caught a glimpse of it during its Clarkson years I couldn't stomach the sheer blokeyness of it, as well as having an audience behind them, their grinning faces in full view. I can't stand seeing the general public on TV at the best of times.

During Match of the Day last weekend there was a trailer for Top Gear - I suppose they think it's the same constituency. It was like pure concentrated distilled Essence of Bloke 🤢

Yes, Woolard did Tomorrow's World too, and he was a presenter for the BBC coverage of the RAC Rally which often started and was run from Chester, I remember him being at Rally HQ at the Queen hotel just outside the railway station in 1981.

Quentin Wilson was a bit "knowall" but at least he actually did know something.

I saw the trailer you mean, and yes, TV for morons, no offense to anyone here who likes.

If you want interesting, humorous and accurate "TV" about cars, I recommend John Cadogan on YouTube. He's an Aussie, so the humour is quite "in your face", but he does his research, and I think I've only once ever disagreed with him. Top bloke, no essence!

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Not sure where Top Gear is going with this new line up

I was a huge fan of this series and now they disappoint me.

Down the pan! Don't like Paddy or Freddie, but to be honest, and I'm being serious, it's been rubbish since William Woolard left. Incidentally, there used to be an occasional presenter, also a journalist and on other motoring shows, called Mike Rutherford. He was OK, actually.

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Well you say ☹️ but just think how grateful CountingOutTime would be for that cold right now!

I read that one day last month in CA it hit 120F. But of course the state has significant problems with heat at the moment.

"Within the valley of shadowless death

They pray for thunderclouds and rain,

But to the multitude who stand in the rain

Heaven is where the sun shines."

As someone once said!

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FFS the guy's trying to feel cooler!

I dunno, he "liked" my post!

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You can immediately and permanently be out of the triple digits by switching to Celsius 😜

Or switch to Kelvin and never leave them!