What I also said was that Since I Lost You is a very, very, very, very, very good song, but Way of the World and On the Shoreline are even better. That's the magic of Genesis.
TotW 03/25/2024 - 03/31/2024: GENESIS - On The Shoreline
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Like many other, I think it should have been on the album.
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I always play 'Feeding The Fire' when I play this song - for some reason my mind associates them together.
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I always play 'Feeding The Fire' when I play this song - for some reason my mind associates them together.
Maybe because On the Shoreline is followed Feeding the Fire as the first two tracks from Archive#2: 1976-1992.
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I wonder what exactly Mike's and Phil's issues were with this song. It is one of their best in this period.
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I think the issue was that they thought We Can't Dance would be a too long album if they included these two. In fact Genesis recorded in '91 enough songs to make 2 albums the length of We Can't Dance. It is known that We Can't Dance 2 is kept within The Farm's vaults. What is more, it was considered at the time the possibility of releasing it as a follow-up afterwards.
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In fact Genesis recorded in '91 enough songs to make 2 albums the length of We Can't Dance. It is known that We Can't Dance 2 is kept within The Farm's vaults. What is more, it was considered at the time the possibility of releasing it as a follow-up afterwards.
This is the first I’ve ever heard of this. Source?
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I think the issue was that they thought We Can't Dance would be a too long album if they included these two. In fact Genesis recorded in '91 enough songs to make 2 albums the length of We Can't Dance. It is known that We Can't Dance 2 is kept within The Farm's vaults. What is more, it was considered at the time the possibility of releasing it as a follow-up afterwards.
It can't be. We Can't Dance 2 is too bad of a name. They would have gone with something quippy like, We Still Can't, or Well, We Tried...
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I think the issue was that they thought We Can't Dance would be a too long album if they included these two. In fact Genesis recorded in '91 enough songs to make 2 albums the length of We Can't Dance. It is known that We Can't Dance 2 is kept within The Farm's vaults. What is more, it was considered at the time the possibility of releasing it as a follow-up afterwards.
I hope not, cos the Farm has been sold now, so it might have gone in a skip!
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I hope not, cos the Farm has been sold now, so it might have gone in a skip!
I used the Farm as a metonym for Genesis. The same way that Fleet Street stands for the English press despite newspapers ceased publishing there before I was born.
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This is the first I’ve ever heard of this. Source?
For example, it is implied on page 219 from Dave Bowler and Bryan Dray's Genesis: A Biography.
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It can't be. We Can't Dance 2 is too bad of a name. They would have gone with something quippy like, We Still Can't, or Well, We Tried...
I heard the surplus album's worth of material was a bunch of uncharacteristically dirty spiky low-fi borderline scary stuff, recorded during late-night/small hours jams that became gradually more unhinged, in a sort of return to the Lamb sessions 'evil' jam. Somewhere there's a whole album that even long-time fans would have trouble recognising as Genesis, speculatively titled The Black Dance (some say it was The Devil's Dance, which I find unlikely). But it will never see any form of release, sadly.
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I heard the surplus album's worth of material was a bunch of uncharacteristically dirty spiky low-fi borderline scary stuff, recorded during late-night/small hours jams that became gradually more unhinged, in a sort of return to the Lamb sessions 'evil' jam. Somewhere there's a whole album that even long-time fans would have trouble recognising as Genesis, speculatively titled The Black Dance (some say it was The Devil's Dance, which I find unlikely). But it will never see any form of release, sadly.
April fool's day today, eh?
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I agree with many of the members here, On the Shoreline should have been on the album.
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Odd that while the repetition of the "elephant" sound effect is mentioned here, no-one has mentioned the repeat of the "can you hear me?" section of Driving the Last Spike? Surely a much stronger reason for leaving it off the album? The elephant noise repetition would have been fine left on the album - just a bit of tying together, thematically. But the DTLS repetition would have seemed like using the same idea twice - a bit lazy
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no-one has mentioned the repeat of the "can you hear me?" section of Driving the Last Spike?
Maybe because no-one else hears it? I definitely don't. Where is it in the song?
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Maybe because no-one else hears it? I definitely don't. Where is it in the song?
I can only think it's very vaguely echoed in the "take me over..." bridge into the middle. Very vaguely.
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Maybe because On the Shoreline is followed Feeding the Fire as the first two tracks from Archive#2: 1976-1992.
Good pull.
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I mean, the very first time I heard this song (many years after hearing DTLS) I was really taken aback by the repetition of that part. Genuinely astonished that anyone can say it very vaguely resembles it.
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I mean, the very first time I heard this song (many years after hearing DTLS) I was really taken aback by the repetition of that part. Genuinely astonished that anyone can say it very vaguely resembles it.
I can only think it's very vaguely echoed in the "take me over..." bridge into the middle. Very vaguely.
I hear what Raelway is saying (same kind of melodic and rhythmic motif), but yes, the intervals between the notes and the overall harmony are all different between the two.
