TotW 01/15/2024 - 01/21/2024: GENESIS - The Cinema Show

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I'm not sure if the 'played live' entries above are correct. 78 and 81 are missing, and 80/86/87 (and 77?) shouldn't be included. I think 78 was the final tour on which the whole song was played.

On the original I've always loved the first section and not been wholly convinced by the instrumental. Live, the instrumental really took off. Even though they ditched the vocal parts, the instrumental bits always made sense in the various medleys and were an exciting moment.

Great track, one of the Genesis classics for most fans I should think. It worked better live than in the studio, to my ears anyway, and the Seconds Out version is outstanding. Great as a medley piece as well. I only wish Tony could have properly emulated the Mellotron choir on later tours, but that’s personal bias because I loved what the ‘tron brought to the band’s music.

A classic that I love. I can't say much more.

I agree with Backdrifter, I think I like the studio acoustic part more than the live version of it (the 12-string-guitars sound a lot better, but I have to say that both Hackett and Bruford make interesting sounds just before the "Na-Na-Na" bit in Seconds Out, it carries a lot of the atmosphere). The 7/8 part has much more energy in the live versions, which is a really good thing. My favourites are 1976, 1978, 1981 concerts. I don't like the 2007 version that much (a bit less energetic but it's ok, it's because of Tony's main synth sound that I don't like at all). I prefer the 2021-2022 version. It retains a lot of the 2007 one (including the horrible synth sound), but the overall context of the tour makes it better, and Nic was so powerful there.

Easy for me, 15.

One of the greats. I agree the tail end of the studio version is improved upon by some of the live versions but it is still always one of my top Genesis studio tracks.

My favorite track on my favorite Gabriel-era album. Unlike others, I prefer the studio version to any live version I've heard, and the extended instrumental is my favorite part.

I think the acoustic intro has a bit of an Ant Phillips feel to it.

BTW, where does the listed time of "10:41" come from? That seems to be a bit short. Is that counting the start of "Aisle of Plenty" to be at some point before "I don't belong here"?

I listened to it just now and enjoyed it more than I thought I would based on the long-standing impression I've held. I always thought it was a bit bloodless and lacking in character compared to their other epics, and the second half entirely too "noodly". I was pleasantly surprised, although the keyboard solo bits are still a bit too busy and fussy for me. I think the real reason I don't rank it as a masterpiece is because I just don't love the album it's on that much, and CS is at the end. Hearing it in isolation after a long absence yields a much more favorable experience. 13.

Without a doubt one of their Top 5 tracks. For me, it's their definite track!

15/15

A real Curate's Egg. First 2 minutes are boring, then it takes off, for 1 minute! It then flags again until 4m 30s, when it finally gets going properly. Some great guitar, Mellotron and drumming make it a gem from that point on, but frankly, I think I prefer Battle. (tbh, most of my interest in the lyrics, when I really got to know the album in the mid 80's, came from the fact I was orbiting around a spectacularly beautiful girl called Juliet. )

Given the amount of time that it drags for me, I'll say 8.

Just one thing : the best use for the Taurus bass pedal. When it kicks in : goosebumps every time.

15 of course, a thing of beauty and a true Genesis Classic. The instrumental was significantly improved live but that is true of any songs being played live for years.

echo previous comments...top 3 track for me ..the double drumming on the second half of the song is a real highlight...and one of the best parts of SO in my humble..

15 without a doubt. Pure perfection.

I gave it 13 because I just don't think it's as great as other songs from this era.

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I gave it 13 because I just don't think it's as great as other songs from this era.

15 from my because I think it's a trademark - not only from this era. Probably their best ever track.

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I gave it 13 because I just don't think it's as great as other songs from this era.

I agree. It's good, but on the same album Moonlit Knight and Firth are much better in my view.

I understand too. Firth of Fifth, strictly in terms of composition, is much more coherent than Cinema Show. Cinema Show works because its end is linked to Aisle of Plenty which resumes the album (first time they did that, they would do it again on Trick (Los Endos), Wind (Wot Gorilla and In That Quiet Earth), and Duke (Duke's Travels / Duke's End). It's one of my favourite things from Genesis).

In concert, CS worked quite well with Afterglow (1978), but thinking back about it, I don't find the 1976 Seconds Out ending particularly convincing ("A couple of fast runs... Da-Da-Daaaaah. Finished !!!").

Although I prefer "Firth of fifth" on that album, this is also a 15 pts track. Says a lot about the album itself ....

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I don't find the 1976 Seconds Out ending particularly convincing ("A couple of fast runs... Da-Da-Daaaaah. Finished !!!)

I agree. I think some of their live endings are terrible, but they had to do something due to their over-reliance on album track fadeouts (although it wasn't so prevalent on the earlier works).